Raspberry Pi + Rune Audio ::: Một trải nghiệm nghe nhạc mới

tml3nr

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Hi anh Phước @linh0983

Em ghiền con Primare NP5 Prisma này quá. Nhờ anh xem kỹ dùm shop hifimedia này có tin được không để em mua qua fado luôn. Giá fado em thấy ok.

Em có vài thắc mắc như sau về shop này:

- Không thấy họ bán gì khác ở amazon.de?

- Thông tin trên amazon họ ghi như sau:

HiFinesse Audio-Video Versand GmbH
Barriestrasse 3
D-66482 Zweibrücken

Geschäftsführer: Claudia Grim-Steinfeld
Telefon: 0 63 32 / 48 79 90
Email: [email protected]

Nhưng em search "HiFinesse Audio-Video Versand GmbH" thì ra trang https://hifinesse.com/ và không thấy có liên quan gì đến hifimedia ở amazon? Ngoại trừ địa chỉ và số đt? Email cũng không giống?

HiFinesse Audio-Video Versand GmbH
Barriestrasse 3
66482 Zweibrücken
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06332- 487 990
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[email protected]


Nhờ anh xem dùm và cho em xin ý kiến nhé o_O

https://fado.vn/de/primare-np5-prism-network-player-B07QFCY2DM.html?m=A396D08HGR31AL

https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07QFCY2DM/

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tml3nr

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bác @tml3nr em thấy onkyo ns-6130, cũng có chromecast nè bác
https://www.eu.onkyo.com/en/products/ns-6130-132943.html
bên Nhật đang có 1 con giá mềm
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/q336209877
Em cũng có nghĩ đến mua Onkyo NS-6130 để lấy CC ra coaxial (Vì em chỉ hợp tiếng của dac chip Burr-Brown), nhưng thật tình hơi ngại âm thanh của đồ Nhật anh ạ. Em không dám chê đồ Nhật dở, nhưng nhìn chung em nghe thấy tiếng không được thoáng và mộc như đồ châu Âu o_O
 

do_long_khach

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tml3nr

Moderator
Em đọc chổ này thấy hơi lạ. Em hơi lo là không biết nếu chỉ dùng NP5 Prisma thì nó có hoạt động bình thường không? Hay lệ thuộc vào các thiết bị Primare khác qua cổng RS232? Thí dụ như làm thế nào để chuyển mode sang bluetooth?

https://www.primare.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/NP5-Prisma-Design-Brief.pdf

NP5 Prisma Preliminary Design Brief
NP5 Prisma network player is a clever little device that provides complete Prisma
control and connectivity technology to virtually any system with a digital input.
Incorporating all the functionality found in our latest Prisma enabled models, including
AirPlay 2*, Bluetooth, Chromecast built-in, Roon*, Spotify Connect, in addition to network
connected hard drive control through the dedicated Prisma application, NP5 Prisma also
allows for volume adjustment and input selection for previous Primare models with RS232
inputs using the comprehensive Prisma application.
Specifically designed to be small enough to slip inconspicuously into any system, NP5
Prisma represents the best solution for owners of any of our past products with digital
inputs, both stereo and multi-channel, to incorporate the latest stored and streamed
digital media playback features.

Features shortlist:
• AirPlay 2*
• Bluetooth
• Roon Ready*
• Spotify Connect
• Chromecast built-in
o Over 160 streaming services available, including Roon
o Simplified network connection using the Google Home app
o Voice control through Google Home devices and Google Assistant
• Multi-room/multi-zone connection and control through a variety of platforms: AirPlay
2, Spotify Connect, Chromecast built-in, and Prisma.
• Inputs: Wired (LAN) and Wireless (WLAN), and USB A input
• Prisma application for consistent high-performance connectivity of network connected
hard drives for high resolution file playback up to 24/192kHz PCM and DSD128
• RCA and Toslink outputs, selectable 48, 96 or 192kHz output to connect to any DAC
• RS232 control connection with included RS232 cable allows for Prisma APP control on
past Primare models even when playing through analog inputs: Volume control: Mute;
Power on/off; Input selection - previous/next

Contents
• Introduction
• Connectivity
o Digital
o Network
o Streaming
• Control
o Prisma application
o Configuration
• Specifications
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Introduction
Prisma is a connectivity and control platform, that consists of a bundle of technologies.
The Prisma application is used primarily to setup operating features of any Prisma
product and control network connected hard drives. The associated streaming services
are all accessed directly from their respective applications, keeping the familiar user
experience of those apps for the comfort of anyone in the household who may wish to use
the system. This also allows for complete transparency when it comes to operating system
and music service updates (no second- or third-party app development delays in
adapting to the updates, or additional unintended consequences resulting from multiple
layers of possibly conflicting software).

Connectivity
• Digital - USB-A
o Sample rates up to PCM 24/192kHz and DSD128/5.6MHz
o File formats: WAV, LPCM, AIFF, FLAC, ALAC, MP3, MP4 (AAC), WMA,
OGG, DSD
• Network
• Wired/LAN – Ethernet connection for wired network system connection
• Wireless/WLAN - dual band wireless technology (WLAN IEEE 802.11
a/b/g/n and 802.11ac compliant)
• Streaming
• Bluetooth – connects Apple, Android, and Windows devices directly for
playback of either streamed or stored content from the associated device with
lossy compression. Given the wide availability of this technology and lower
resolution capabilities, Bluetooth is an easy way to stream content for informal
listening.
• AirPlay 2 – connects Apple devices over the WiFi network for playback of
any streamed or stored content from the associated device with lossless
compression. Apple Lossless Audio Codec is used, to allow streaming quality
up to CD quality (44.1kHz/1140kbps) and is appropriate for more critical
listening. Recent updates to iOS allow for playback of TIDAL HiFi Masters files
for improved audio performance. AirPlay 2 further adds multi-room/multizone
functionality within the AirPlay ecosystem.
• Spotify Connect – connects any device (mobile or PC) with the Spotify
application directly to that service over the WiFi network and allows for
playback at the highest level offered by the required Premium service (up to
320kbps).
• Chromecast built-in - offering the greatest level of connectivity and control
options, compatible with Apple, Android and Google devices:
• The associated Google Home application allows you to change the name
of your primare device and helps you to connect the Prisma device to your
WiFi network to allow the casting of hundreds of music streaming services.
• Casting can be done from virtually any mobile device, as well as
computers from the Chrome browser.
• Chromecast built-in provides a direct connection between the Prisma
device and the preferred music service through the network, therefore
playback quality is limited (up to 24-bit/96kHz) only by the resolution
provided by that service, meaning the possibility of higher resolution
playback for critical listening from services like TIDAL HiFi and Qobuz,
and Roon as an endpoint.
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• Roon Ready functionality allows for the use of Roon’s sophisticated digital
music management software. Roon transforms the experience of browsing
music. Artist photos, credits, bios, reviews, lyrics, tour dates, and composers
are located automatically, then interconnected by links to build a surfable,
searchable digital magazine about your collection.
And Roon finds all the same links between your personal files and the
millions of tracks available on TIDAL and Qobuz, so you can start with the
music you know, then explore and discover new music from the world
beyond your collection.
In addition to music browsing, Roon is a multi-room, multi-user networked
audio platform built to the exacting standards of audiophiles. It offers
features like bit-perfect playback, DSD and PCM upsampling,
multichannel playback, and signal path display.
Roon plays to a number of different types of devices on your home
network and can be controlled from Mac, Windows, iOS, and Android.
• Multi-room and multi-zone connectivity and control:
§ More than one device can be connected at a time
§ Content can be cast to any Chromecast built-in device on the
network
§ Control of all functions can be accomplished from anywhere within
the network
• Automatic Prisma firmware updating through Google Home application.
• Voice control though the Google Home speakers and Google Assistant.

Control
Once connected to your network, the Prisma application allows for the control of virtually
all functions of any of our Prisma enabled products:
• Input Device Selection on linked devices only
• Search by artist, album, track, and title from stored media
• Playlist and Queue creation from stored media
• Playback functions: Play, stop, track forward and back, shuffle play, repeat
single or all tracks, volume mute, volume adjustment either by tapping the -/+
icons
• Track information by pressing the album cover in the lower left corner:
o Song: indicates the title of the song.
o Album: indicates the title of the album
o Artist: indicates the artists name
o Playing from: indicates the source of the music file being played back
o Track duration: indicates elapsed and remaining time
o Format: indicates format of the music file being played.
o Sample rate: indicates sample rate of the music file being played
o Bit depth: indicate the number of bits for the playing track.
o Bitrate: indicates bit rate of the music file being played
o Fil size: indicates the files size.

System configuration NP5
Prisma allows for complete system configuration:
• Source – select media servers on your network to use
• Queue – add queue to playlist
• Playlist – create new playlist
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• Zone – manage zones to connect with Prisma devices in other areas of the house
• Settings
o Source settings
§ Add media server to your source screen.
§ Add music server to your source screen.
o Audio Settings
§ Output - choose between variable or fixed volume.
§ Balance – to adjust the output balance between the left and right
speaker
§ Startup volume – sets the volume level at a predetermined level
upon turn on from standby.
§ Maximum volume – sets the maximum volume
§ Mute volume – sets the output level when muted, from 0 to any
preferred setting
§ Digital output – to select between 48kHz, 96kHz and 192kHz
settings for the digital output sample rate.
o General Settings
§ RS232 Link allows you to setup the linked connection between your
NP5 and the device you have connected to NP5 with the RS232
cable.
§ Factory reset - Allows you to reset the device to factory settings
§ Auto-standby – sets the amount of time without user interface
action or signal from last selected source before the device
automatically goes into standby
o Streaming settings
§ Bluetooth settings
• Visible – enable or disable Prisma device being visible to
Bluetooth devices
• Auto-connect – enable or disable automatic connection with
Bluetooth devices
§ Airplay password – set AirPlay password
o Information
§ App version - states the PRISMA apps version nr.
§ System information – Shows all Primare devices connected to the
network, if they are connected by LAN or WiFi, their IP address,
NET MAC, BT MAC and their firmware.

Technical Specifications
Digital outputs: coaxial, RCA; optical, Toslink
Output sample rates, selectable:48, 96 or 192 kHz/24bit
Digital input: 1x USB-A up to 192kHZ/24bit; up to DSD128 (5.6MHz)
Network Connectivity
1 x Ethernet LAN port
2 x Internal antennas for Bluetooth and Wi-Fi
LAN: 10/100Mbit Ethernet port
WLAN: IEE 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac compliant; 2.4/5GHz; b, g, n mode
Audio formats
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WAV, LPCM, AIFF, FLAC, ALAC, WMA, OGG: Up to 192kHz/24bit
MP3, MP4 (AAC): Up to 48kHz/16bit, VBR & CBR 320kbps
DSD: Up to DSD128 (5.6MHz)
Streaming
AirPlay 2
Bluetooth®
Chromecast built-in
Roon Ready*
Spotify Connect®
DLNA/UPnP
General Control: RS232
Power Consumption: Standby <2.9W; Operate <3.6W
Dimensions
143 x 125 x 36 mm (wxdxh) with connectors
143 x 120 x 36 mm (wxdxh) without connectors
Weight: 0.5 kg
Colour: Black

* Roon Ready with future software update - additional indicator light configurations will
be implemented following the update.
All specifications and features subject to change.

https://www.primare.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Alternate-APP-and-AIR-Control-Applications.pdf

Alternate APP and AIR Control Applications

We have confirmed that with the latest Android and Apple operating system updates,
and the enactment of GDPR privacy protocols, have resulted in serious malfunctioning of
both our APP and AIR applications for PRE60, NP30, I32 MM30 and PRE32 MM30.
As our development team worked to finalize the new Prisma application and related
technologies it became clear that an update to the existing APP and AIR control
applications would simply not allow those customers using our past control and
connectivity technology to incorporate all of the features possible with the Prisma
platform.
As a result, the NP5 Prisma network player and update campaign was developed to
provide existing customers with an unprecedented update opportunity to incorporate
latest streaming features.
However, it is understood that some customers may not wish to take advantage of this
opportunity. If that is the case, we recommend the use of readily available DLNA/UPnP
control applications.
We have experience, and can recommend the following, having found them to be stable,
easy to setup, and work well with our products, while also providing not only embedded
TIDAL, with MQA, and Qobuz music services, but also Chromecast connection and control.

mconnnect
mconnect player app: http://www.conversdigital.com/eng/product/product04.php:
Note: there is a free version of mconnect available, but to access it you must close an
offer for the paid version that will appear upon opening the application for the first time.

BubbleUPnP
• BubbleUPnP for DLNA/Chromecast - free version, with ads:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bubblesoft.android.bubbleu
pnp
• BubbleUPnP UPnP/DLNA License - pay version, without ads:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bubblesoft.android.bubbleu
pnp.unlocker
Please note, neither mconnect or BubbleUPnP will be able to select inputs or control a
thumb drive connected to the USB input on the associated Primare product. For those
features, APP may still need to be used.
The hope is that these applications, or others like them, will allow customers not opting to
use NP5 Prisma to continue to enjoy there Primare streaming components.
Important note: due to issues relating to GDPR implementation, APP is no longer
available on the Google Play app store.
Any customer needing the Android APP is asked to contact us as at [email protected]
 
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quatmo

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piCorePlayer 6.0 + LMS cả 2 cài trên Pi 3 test chạy Ok, có support Pi 4
Link tải

piCorePlayer Roonbridge đã test hát Ok
Link tải

Update
Tidal, Deezer (hiện chỉ 320/mp3, không lên HIFI), Qoubuz, Youtube đã test chạy Ok

Tối nay cài thử: CastBridge = integrate Chromecast players with LMS
Cập nhật: Đã cài Chromecast plugin Ok (chưa kết nối nghe thử).

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Đã cast từ Pi 3 cài piCorePlayer + LMS sang Chromecast ngon các bác. Cài đặt đơn giản bằng cách active Chromecast plugin lên, setting tìm thiết bị đơn giản và tự động (làm theo hướng dẫn bên dưới).

Có thể nói piCorePlayer + LMS đủ đồ ăn chơi: Scan album/NAS, Roonbridge, Cast sang Chromecast, Tidal, Spotify, Qobuz, Youtube.., rất tiếc Deezer chất lượng chưa lên được HIFI. piCorePlayer chạy hoàn toàn trên RAM rất nhẹ.

Có thể chỉ cài Player trên Pi còn LMS server cài trên PC/Pi khác đẩy sang hoặc cài cả 2 thứ cùng trên Pi Player + LMS.


Chromecast bridge plugin
The simplest way to use the bridge is to install the “Chromecast bridge” plugin on the system running LMS. If this is not practical and you need to install it on another computer, see section below. If you want to try the development version, add the following repository to LMS: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/lms-to-cast/dev/repo-sf.xml

Once the plugin is installed

i.Go to the Settings, Advanced page on the LMS GUI and select the Chromecast bridge entry.

ii.Turn on all your CC devices.

Choose the executable for your platform if more than one is available, tick the ’Start the bridge’ tickbox, and click ‘Apply’ at the right-bottom of the page. As the ‘autosave’ option is ticked by default, a configuration will be generated automatically after ~30s, just wait and refresh the page to see it. You can optionally force configuration file generation by ticking ‘Generate’, but it’s optional. Note that ‘Generate’ only scans the network to create a configuration file, it does not actually launch the bridge.

From that point, you might be lucky and have the bridge and your players working with all built-in defaults, but it is highly recommended to follow the steps below once you have a configuration file created.

iii.Make sure the ‘Start the bridge’ tickbox is unticked

iv.optional step: For each player, in the 'Apply pre-defined player profile' box choose the closest match to your player, tick the ‘apply’ tickbox and then the ‘Apply’ button

v.Edit the parameters if you need to (you can, for example, change the name of the player). There is a “common” set of parameters that apply for all players and then, when you select an individual player in the dropdown box on the left, each parameter set here will override the “common” one. A blank value means that the “common” value is used and a blank in “common” means that the system’s default is used.

vi.Click ‘Apply’ to save these values. Once you’ve edited all you want, restart the bridge. Note: if you don’t stop the bridge before editing parameters, it will restart every time you have change something and clicked ‘Apply’

vii..The parameters on the plugin settings screen include most of those in the configuration file. See Section 4 for details of each configuration file parameter. You can edit the configuration file manually if you really need to.

viii.If you get stuck, read Section 3 which may help you to choose different options.

When ‘autosave’ is clicked, the configuration will be saved automatically every time a new player is discovered. It is also possible to manually update your configuration file at any time by ticking ‘Generate’ (whether ‘Start the bridge’ is ticked or not).

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Update:
Dùng App Squeezer điều khiển ngon
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=uk.org.ngo.squeezer&hl=en
 
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linh0983

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Đã cast từ Pi 3 cài piCorePlayer + LMS sang Chromecast ngon các bác. Cài đặt đơn giản bằng cách active Chromecast plugin lên, setting tìm thiết bị đơn giản và tự động (làm theo hướng dẫn bên dưới).

Có thể nói piCorePlayer + LMS đủ đồ ăn chơi: Scan album/NAS, Roonbridge, Cast sang Chromecast, Tidal, Spotify, Qobuz, Youtube.., rất tiếc Deezer chất lượng chưa lên được HIFI. piCorePlayer chạy hoàn toàn trên RAM rất nhẹ.

Có thể chỉ cài Player trên Pi còn LMS server cài trên PC/Pi khác đẩy sang hoặc cài cả 2 thứ cùng trên Pi Player + LMS.




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Chromecast Birdge LMS trong chú nas có đó bác . Check vào là có ngay a . o_O

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Daphile có luôn bác ơi ! :p

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tml3nr

Moderator
Riêng roon ready ko biết hiện giờ có cập nhật chưa hay cập nhật sau này bác a . Mấy thứ khác nó setup qua app này bác @tml3nr . Bác thích bác order mình thấy chú này ngon đó bác hihi . Nếu nó có mqa nữa là tuyệt với a . o_O
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hansong.primarelinkhd
Anh xem kỹ dùm em shop hifimedia xem sao ạ? Nếu không yên tâm thì anh tìm dùm em chổ khác nhé. Giá cả được như fado là tốt đời đẹp đạo :rolleyes:

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Thanhvo31

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Đã cast từ Pi 3 cài piCorePlayer + LMS sang Chromecast ngon các bác. Cài đặt đơn giản bằng cách active Chromecast plugin lên, setting tìm thiết bị đơn giản và tự động (làm theo hướng dẫn bên dưới).

Có thể nói piCorePlayer + LMS đủ đồ ăn chơi: Scan album/NAS, Roonbridge, Cast sang Chromecast, Tidal, Spotify, Qobuz, Youtube.., rất tiếc Deezer chất lượng chưa lên được HIFI. piCorePlayer chạy hoàn toàn trên RAM rất nhẹ.

Có thể chỉ cài Player trên Pi còn LMS server cài trên PC/Pi khác đẩy sang hoặc cài cả 2 thứ cùng trên Pi Player + LMS.




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Update:
Dùng App Squeezer điều khiển ngon
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=uk.org.ngo.squeezer&hl=en

Tôi cài picore 6 Audio lên Pi 4/2GB nhưng không nhận ra BossDAC mini (512x)?
 

linh0983

Well-Known Member
đúng là thiếu nguồn
em dùng nguồn "xịn" 5V-2A của bác @HNE cắm vào CC3 ( không cấp nguồn cho board HDMI ) - hót liên tục, chẳng bì gì.....chỉ có nóng con chip trên board thôi
Đúng 5v là ok bác a . Còn 2A hay 10A con chíp nó nóng cũng như nhau a . Bác cho nó cái tản nhiệt (yên lòng) chứ board HDMI trong cái REC mình nó nóng kinh khủng mà chẳng có tản nhiệt nào úp lên con chíp a . o_O
 

binna

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Đúng 5v là ok bác a . Còn 2A hay 10A con chíp nó nóng cũng như nhau a . Bác cho nó cái tản nhiệt (yên lòng) chứ board HDMI trong cái REC mình nó nóng kinh khủng mà chẳng có tản nhiệt nào úp lên con chíp a . o_O
trong lúc chờ tản nhiệt, em hơi "chuối" là lấy đồng tiền xu up lên con chip :)
 

quatmo

Well-Known Member
Tôi cài picore 6 Audio lên Pi 4/2GB nhưng không nhận ra BossDAC mini (512x)?

Mình lấy thẻ nhớ đang chạy trên Pi 3 cắm vào Pi 4, chạy ngon. Trong setting output có Allo Boss DAC (MiniBoss), không biết phải driver của bác không?

Nếu không được bác thử chọn driver như hình dưới thử xem (snd_rpi_hifiberry_dac, HifiBerry DAC HiFi pcm5102a-hifi-0).

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